[Eosc-life-wp4] EOSC-Life WP4 workshop on pseudo/anonymisation

Ludek Matyska ludek at ics.muni.cz
Thu Nov 7 19:15:20 GMT 2019


Hi,

just a short comment on this

> I would think that EOSC services for deidentification would not really make sense. The data needs to be deidentified before uploading. There might be some strategies around this, but I don’t see the use cases yet. And that’s where it should start in my view: why would you want to upload the data identifying and only deidentify in the cloud? I would be happy to discuss tomorrow, but I am only available for the first 30 minutes.

EOSC services are not restricted to just services staying in some (anonymous) cloud -- they could be also containers (or any other tools) that you apply locally (or in your secured cloud environment). The point here would be that they provide some level of guarantees ("certification") so you could trust them reasonably (that they do de-anonymization to some level and that you can trust them they do not send your primary data somewhere else).

But I am not aware of any real work in this respect within at least EOSC Hub.

Best regards,

					Ludek

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> *From:*Eosc-life-wp4 <eosc-life-wp4-bounces at elixir-europe.org> *On Behalf Of *Serena BATTAGLIA
> *Sent:* 07 November 2019 15:48
> *To:* Christian.Ohmann at med.uni-duesseldorf.de; eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org
> *Cc:* rita.banzi at marionegri.it
> *Subject:* Re: [Eosc-life-wp4] EOSC-Life WP4 workshop on pseudo/anonymisation
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> Dear Christian,
> 
> I was also thinking about the specific question of small simple size in small populations/rare diseases. Any idea?
> 
> Regarding your point b): I don’t know, but perhaps Jan-Willem could have some ideas; let’s discuss tomorrow.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Serena
> 
> *De :*Christian.Ohmann at med.uni-duesseldorf.de <mailto:Christian.Ohmann at med.uni-duesseldorf.de> [mailto:Christian.Ohmann at med.uni-duesseldorf.de]
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 7 novembre 2019 15:42
> *À :* Serena BATTAGLIA <Serena.BATTAGLIA at ecrin.org <mailto:Serena.BATTAGLIA at ecrin.org>>; eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org <mailto:eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org>
> *Cc :* rita.banzi at marionegri.it <mailto:rita.banzi at marionegri.it>
> *Objet :* RE: EOSC-Life WP4 workshop on pseudo/anonymisation
> 
> Dear Serena,
> 
> the workshop on pseudo/anonymisation may also cover the following topics:
> 
> a) Different strategies for performing de-identification (e.g. stand alone tools applied by the researcher, de-identification tools integrated in repositories, consulting Services by experts)
> 
> b) EOSC-Services for de-identification: Does it make sense? How could it be implemented?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Christian
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> *From:*Eosc-life-wp4 [eosc-life-wp4-bounces at elixir-europe.org] on behalf of Serena BATTAGLIA [Serena.BATTAGLIA at ecrin.org]
> *Sent:* 28 October 2019 13:57
> *To:* eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org <mailto:eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org>
> *Cc:* Rita Banzi
> *Subject:* [Eosc-life-wp4] EOSC-Life WP4 workshop on pseudo/anonymisation
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Just a kind reminder to populate the list of potential speakers and experts to be invited for the pseudo/anonymisation workshop in January; for reference, the draft agenda is available here:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K7eu2xVzcq8BENbX5CgBQSOUuQFt4D-HY3kGcJx1QKU/edit
> 
> we will discuss the final list during the next telco, on 8 November 10 am CET
> 
> Thank you all for your help
> 
> Best,
> 
> Serena
> 
> *De :*Eosc-life-wp4 [mailto:eosc-life-wp4-bounces at elixir-europe.org] *De la part de* Serena BATTAGLIA
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 octobre 2019 11:55
> *À :* eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org <mailto:eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org>
> *Objet :* Re: [Eosc-life-wp4] EOSC-Life WP4 Telco 04
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> The minutes of the last telco are available here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w4z3rzxxhiUGpq8lmaP7z8VK1yN5DSoF/edit#heading=h.9dkzmfg2vla7
> 
> Please don’t hesitate to amend or add comments if need be.
> 
> At the end of the telco I forgot to mention that *the next one will be scheduled on 8 November*, as the 1^st will be a bank holiday in most of the participating countries; an updated calendar invite will follow shortly. Apologies for the inconvenience this could generate
> 
> Best,
> 
> Serena
> 
> *De :*Eosc-life-wp4 [mailto:eosc-life-wp4-bounces at elixir-europe.org] *De la part de* Serena BATTAGLIA
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 27 septembre 2019 12:19
> *À :* eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org <mailto:eosc-life-wp4 at elixir-europe.org>
> *Objet :* [Eosc-life-wp4] EOSC-Life WP4 Telco 04
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> The agenda of WP4 Telco 04 is available here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EayrSBT4w2NUOIUivvsrC8AOWMyyFPAw
> 
> In case you will not be able to attend, please add your names directly to the ‘apologies’ list
> 
> I wish you all a nice week end,
> 
> Serena
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